{"id":15880,"date":"2026-06-11T15:00:39","date_gmt":"2026-06-11T15:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/?p=15880"},"modified":"2026-06-11T15:02:52","modified_gmt":"2026-06-11T15:02:52","slug":"talmudic-debate-both-are-the-words-of-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/talmudic-debate-both-are-the-words-of-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Talmudic Debate: Both Are the Words of God"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"yoast-breadcrumbs\"><span><span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/\">Home<\/a><\/span> \u00bb <span class=\"breadcrumb_last\" aria-current=\"page\">Talmudic Debate: Both Are the Words of God<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-yoast-seo-estimated-reading-time yoast-reading-time__wrapper\"><span class=\"yoast-reading-time__icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-icon=\"clock\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" fill=\"none\" stroke=\"currentColor\" style=\"display:inline-block;vertical-align:-0.1em\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\"><path stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" stroke-width=\"2\" d=\"M12 8v4l3 3m6-3a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"yoast-reading-time__spacer\" style=\"display:inline-block;width:1em\"><\/span><span class=\"yoast-reading-time__descriptive-text\">Estimated reading time: <\/span><span class=\"yoast-reading-time__reading-time\">4<\/span><span class=\"yoast-reading-time__time-unit\"> minutes<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"h-ask-the-rabbi-with-rabbi-chaim-mintz\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Ask the Rabbi with Rabbi Chaim Mintz<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">When we <a href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/about.php\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/about.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">study Torah and Talmud<\/a>, we <a href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/the-talmuds-elaborate-give-and-take\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/the-talmuds-elaborate-give-and-take\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">spend so much time analyzing opinions<\/a> that are not accepted in practice. Why are Talmud debates and dissenting opinions studied so extensively? And is this still considered Torah study?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Rabbi Chaim Mintz responds<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why Talmud Debate Is Part of Torah Study<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"h-the-torah-is-not-meant-to-be-a-simple-list-of-final-rulings-rather-it-is-something-to-be-understood-through-toil-and-intensive-study-asking-questions-analyzing-and-trying-to-understand-is-itself-the-mitzvah-of-torah-study-because-of-this-even-opinions-that-are-not-followed-in-practice-are-still-part-of-torah-learning-since-they-are-part-of-the-process-of-understanding-torah\">The Torah is not meant to be a simple list of final rulings; rather, it is something to be understood through toil and intensive study. The very act of asking questions, analyzing, and striving to understand is itself the mitzvah of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/learn-torah-online\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/online\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Torah study<\/a>. Because of this, even opinions that are not followed in practice are still part of Torah learning, since they are part of the process of understanding Torah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-the-dispute-between-beit-hillel-and-beit-shammai\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Dispute Between Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the most famous Talmudic disputes is the ongoing debate between Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel (two dominant, opposing schools of thought in early Rabbinic Judaism). Regarding these disputes, the Talmud (<a href=\"https:\/\/library.alhatorah.org\/?r1=Bavli_Eiruvin_13b&amp;s1=1&amp;l1=he,en\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/library.alhatorah.org\/?r1=Bavli_Eiruvin_13b&amp;s1=1&amp;l1=he,en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Eruvin<\/em>\u00a013b<\/a>) records a heavenly voice that declared: \u201cThese and those are the words of the living God, but the law follows Beit Hillel.\u201d In other words, although in practice the <em>halachah <\/em>(Torah law) follows Beit Hillel, the views of Beit Shammai are not merely part of Torah study, but are themselves the words of Hashem (God).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But how can <a href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/parashat-emor-sukkot-remembering-who-provides-our-security\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/parashat-emor-sukkot-remembering-who-provides-our-security\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">dissenting opinions<\/a> both be correct? To understand how this can be so, it is helpful to understand the nature of a <em>machloket<\/em> (Torah dispute). Rashi (<a href=\"https:\/\/library.alhatorah.org\/?r1=Rashi_Ketubot_57a&amp;s1=1\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/library.alhatorah.org\/?r1=Rashi_Ketubot_57a&amp;s1=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Ketubot<\/em>\u00a057a<\/a>) explains this as follows. There are two types of disputes in Torah. Some are factual or historical in nature, such as questions of what happened or which rabbi issued a particular statement. In such cases, only one view can be correct. However, most disputes in Torah are not of this nature. Rather, they are conceptual disagreements about how to understand and define a case, what it should be compared to, and which underlying factors are most significant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In these cases, each side identifies genuine aspects of the case and makes valid conceptual connections. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/what-is-orthodox-judaism\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/jewish-resources\/what-is-orthodox-judaism\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Neither opinion is simply \u201cwrong.\u201d<\/a> Rather, we ultimately rule according to the opinion we believe better fits the case before us. Yet with even a slight change in circumstances, the other opinion may suddenly become more fitting. So although only one opinion is followed in this particular case, both contain aspects of truth. In fact, it is brought in the name of the Arizal that when Mashiach (the Messiah) comes, and the spiritual reality of the world will be different, we will follow the opinions of Beit Shammai.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-how-opposing-talmudical-opinions-can-both-be-true\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">How Opposing Talmudical Opinions Can Both Be True<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To illustrate this, consider a dispute between parents how to discipline a child \u2014 whether to be strict and firm, or to use a gentler approach. Like many Talmudic disputes, it is not a question of right and wrong, as both approaches have validity and reflect real values. Rather, it is a question of appropriateness for the specific situation. In some cases, firmness is necessary; in others, softness is what is needed. Each view correctly identifies a real aspect of what parenting requires \u2014 it is just a question of when each applies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-the-deeper-meaning-of-torah-disputes\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Deeper Meaning of Torah Disputes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On a deeper level, the kabbalists explain that two completely conflicting opinions can both be true. Although we all received the same Torah at Sinai, every soul is connected to a different letter of the Torah, and each person perceives and understands it through the unique prism of his soul. Because of this, different people can arrive at totally different and even opposite understandings of Torah, yet each one is a fully valid and correct interpretation of Torah as it is received and understood through that soul. Nevertheless, although each opinion reflects an equally true understanding of Torah, the Sages established a clear system for how to act and which opinion to follow in practice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"h-in-short\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">In Short <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Each opinion is part of Torah, since it belongs to the process of toiling in the search for truth, and each contains truth that applies in certain situations. On a deeper level, it reflects an authentic interpretation as perceived through the prism of each soul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button aligncenter tm-cta\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.torahmates.org\/application\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Torah comes alive through thoughtful questions and meaningful discussion. Learn with a TorahMate and experience the depth and beauty of Torah study one-on-one.<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:18px\"><em>Written by Rabbi Aaron Shapiro<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:18px\">Have another question to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oorah.org\/asktherabbi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ask a rabbi<\/a>? You can ask Rabbi Mintz your own question by joining&nbsp;Ask the Rabbi Live on Tuesdays at 9PM ET. 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